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Just bought A-10C WARTHOG
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PW
2012-01-12 23:37:25 UTC
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Don't ask me why. My patience for serious sims like this is long
gone. I guess the A-10s at the Blue Angels airshow last summer made a
lasting impression on me.

Oh well ;-)

-pw
PW
2012-01-13 05:21:39 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:37:25 -0700, PW
Post by PW
Don't ask me why. My patience for serious sims like this is long
gone. I guess the A-10s at the Blue Angels airshow last summer made a
lasting impression on me.
Oh well ;-)
-pw
Can't get my CH Pro Throttle working with the game. I downloaded
Crunche's profile from the CH Hanger and set it to mapped mode like
the instructions said. I even tried it with no profile loaded. The
throttle calibrates in the CH CM.

WTH?

-pw
Andrew MacPherson
2012-01-13 05:50:00 UTC
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WTH?
Can't help, sorry. My experimenting with A10 went as far as loading it up, flying
around a bit, thinking "oh look, it's still LOMAC" and then moving on to be
disappointed by Cliffs of Dover.

I am turning into a fairly high maintenance customer in my old age. Maybe there's a
cycle... you start with Pong and end up back with Pong, because life's too
complicated for weapons sub-systems unless the government's sponsoring you to do it
for a living. :-)

At least now these things come up in Steam sales fairly regularly. That makes
experimenting much less painful.

Andrew McP
PW
2012-01-13 18:04:26 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
Post by Andrew MacPherson
WTH?
Can't help, sorry. My experimenting with A10 went as far as loading it up, flying
around a bit, thinking "oh look, it's still LOMAC" and then moving on to be
disappointed by Cliffs of Dover.
I am turning into a fairly high maintenance customer in my old age. Maybe there's a
cycle... you start with Pong and end up back with Pong, because life's too
complicated for weapons sub-systems unless the government's sponsoring you to do it
for a living. :-)
At least now these things come up in Steam sales fairly regularly. That makes
experimenting much less painful.
Andrew McP
Thanks Andrew :-) I also have to relearn the CH Control Manager.
Mapped vs Direct Mode, etc...! Why did I do this??

-pw
PW
2012-01-14 04:54:30 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
Post by Andrew MacPherson
WTH?
Can't help, sorry. My experimenting with A10 went as far as loading it up, flying
around a bit, thinking "oh look, it's still LOMAC" and then moving on to be
disappointed by Cliffs of Dover.
I am turning into a fairly high maintenance customer in my old age. Maybe there's a
cycle... you start with Pong and end up back with Pong, because life's too
complicated for weapons sub-systems unless the government's sponsoring you to do it
for a living. :-)
At least now these things come up in Steam sales fairly regularly. That makes
experimenting much less painful.
Andrew McP
So what is wrong Andrew with another LOMAC? What would you want the
next flight or racing sim to be for the PC? I'd say, that may never
ever going to happen again.

I still have the Falcon 4 manual and A10 of course never came with one
(I am not about to spend a bunch of money getting the PDF manuals
installed for A-10C).

It's been a while since I have played a Flight Sim with all my CH
stuff and it did bring back so many memories.

Hornet Korea
SU-27 Flanker (whatever happend to Papa Doc?) Showing my age!
Janes anything

Just watched a show with the new Hornets.

I am NOT ready for Pong yet! 53 going on 54 years YOUNG!!! :-)

-paul
Andrew MacPherson
2012-01-14 07:52:00 UTC
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Post by PW
So what is wrong Andrew with another LOMAC?
The graphics engine has been tweaked an polished, but it's still so very, very
LOMAC, with many weaknesses. And although they keep fiddling with the mission
structure, I never get motivated to fly their missions and campaigns. They are
technical puzzles to be solved rather than involving.

I've said before that EECH got close to providing a scenario I really cared about.
You provide air support for a genuine ground war. F4 had that as well, but it was
on too grand a scale for me to feel like an important part of the war machine.

I want to fly missions softening up ground forces, then patrolling the skies while
ground forces move up and consolidate. The Crimea map was perfect for this with so
many air bases to use as staging posts. You start on the Kuznetsov, helping a
seaborne landing to take over one airbase, establish a bridgehead, then chose which
direction your ground forces head off in while you do the showy-offy aerial stuff
with your wingies.

And so on. :-)

Andrew McP
PW
2012-01-14 17:22:53 UTC
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:52 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
Post by Andrew MacPherson
Post by PW
So what is wrong Andrew with another LOMAC?
The graphics engine has been tweaked an polished, but it's still so very, very
LOMAC, with many weaknesses. And although they keep fiddling with the mission
structure, I never get motivated to fly their missions and campaigns. They are
technical puzzles to be solved rather than involving.
I've said before that EECH got close to providing a scenario I really cared about.
You provide air support for a genuine ground war. F4 had that as well, but it was
on too grand a scale for me to feel like an important part of the war machine.
I want to fly missions softening up ground forces, then patrolling the skies while
ground forces move up and consolidate. The Crimea map was perfect for this with so
many air bases to use as staging posts. You start on the Kuznetsov, helping a
seaborne landing to take over one airbase, establish a bridgehead, then chose which
direction your ground forces head off in while you do the showy-offy aerial stuff
with your wingies.
And so on. :-)
Andrew McP
Bummer. Oh well. It is what it is. What else is there to fly?

I assume Black Shark is the same?

-pw
Andrew MacPherson
2012-01-15 10:01:00 UTC
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Post by PW
I assume Black Shark is the same?
BS is great fun for learning to be shot down in... I mean to fly a contra-rotating
helicopter (or death trap as I prefer to think of it). But to all intents and
purposes A10 is the same product tweaked... with the A10, but without the
helicopter.

I think the next version they're milking us for contains both. They're too good to
us! Says the man with $700's worth of money "invested" in iRacing. I can hardly
begrudge ED their sim-tax compared to that foolishness. :-) Especially as ED
stuff's now on Steam and a bit of patience soon provides a lot of discount.

Andrew McP
PW
2012-01-16 05:08:17 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
Post by Andrew MacPherson
WTH?
Can't help, sorry. My experimenting with A10 went as far as loading it up, flying
around a bit, thinking "oh look, it's still LOMAC" and then moving on to be
disappointed by Cliffs of Dover.
I am turning into a fairly high maintenance customer in my old age. Maybe there's a
cycle... you start with Pong and end up back with Pong, because life's too
complicated for weapons sub-systems unless the government's sponsoring you to do it
for a living. :-)
At least now these things come up in Steam sales fairly regularly. That makes
experimenting much less painful.
Andrew McP
All right Andrew! I thought I read that the US version of Flaming
Cliffs had sorted out most of the bugs?
Andrew MacPherson
2012-01-16 06:04:00 UTC
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Post by PW
I thought I read that the US version of Flaming
Cliffs had sorted out most of the bugs?
Bugs yes, but imagination? No. :-) I think I just expect too much of people, but
I'm still impressed by their technical achievements. The level of detail on the
systems modelling is amazing.

Andrew McP
X
2012-03-06 08:28:55 UTC
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Post by PW
All right Andrew! I thought I read that the US version of Flaming
Cliffs had sorted out most of the bugs?
Flaming Cliffs 2,yes.
PW
2012-03-10 04:19:44 UTC
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Post by X
Post by PW
All right Andrew! I thought I read that the US version of Flaming
Cliffs had sorted out most of the bugs?
Flaming Cliffs 2,yes.
Ooops, I posted this a while ago but I think I meant Cliffs of Dover!
:-)
X
2012-03-10 16:23:34 UTC
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Post by PW
Ooops, I posted this a while ago but I think I meant Cliffs of Dover!
:-)
I have that also and it is still a work in progress but it is quite
playable now. Supposed to be a new patch released soon with a faster
graphics engine. Best place to get info on it is here
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=189
PW
2012-03-11 21:26:08 UTC
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Post by X
Post by PW
Ooops, I posted this a while ago but I think I meant Cliffs of Dover!
:-)
I have that also and it is still a work in progress but it is quite
playable now. Supposed to be a new patch released soon with a faster
graphics engine. Best place to get info on it is here
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=189
Thanks!

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